Look Peterson is a hopeless drug addict. He almost died at one point in the last couple of years (hence why he disappeared from the scene for a bit). That's not a secret, it's public knowledge.
I take everything he says through the lens of he was pretty doped up for large chunks of time.
He was part of that cadre of talk-show celebs (Brand included) that found themselves on the outs when the Me Too movement empowered women to speak out about abuse.
It was a hard time for a bunch dickheads cause the balance of power had shifted.
But bullies never back down when challenged. Movies and TV are fantasy, you can't just stand up to a bully publicly and have them retreat. The ugly truth is bullies double down on what got them the power in the first place.
The backlash (for want of a better term) to women having more of a voice has been ugly. Like 1920's ugly. I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime (outside of medieval places like Saudi Arabia and the like) the regressive shift in views on women in western democracies like I've seen in the past few years. It's scary, but not that surprising given the characters at the heart of it. They were always problematic if we're being honest with ourselves. And that's the issue methinks: self reflection. Lotta people feel pretty bad about the stuff they saw and did nothing about over the years.
They want someone to let them think that it's all okay, that the people, they deep down know they failed, were actually their enemy, that they, in some twisted way, deserved what they got. Or at very least it wasn't as bad as everyone makes out (most of that 'everyone' being the voice in their head telling them otherwise).
Interesting, I didn't know about his addiction issues. That's the thing with the Me Too movement. It brought out those that, like you said, double down on their crap. But standing up to bullies is something I've done for decades. The MRA, who don't actually give a crap about mens health for the most part, are who started the "Not all men." rubbish. The whataboutism tactics. etc. The backlash has been ugly, and it continues to get worse. It will get worse before it gets better. The positive I've noticed, is more men, from the younger generations moreso, (myself being gen X) are stepping up and calling other men out. Need more of it.
Love it man! Your rants tend to get me fired up too lol! I even tend to like a lot of Petersons stuff, but I totally agree with you here.
I want to know what his thoughts on Paul the apostle are then. After reading any of his writings, I don’t think anyone (religious or not) would call that childless, unmarried man, immature.
Furthermore, my argument against the whole population issue is what’s more important, some future nonexistent population, or the current population we already have?
And I know this is a hot take, but I’m a big advocate for pro life and don’t agree with abortion. I consider those unborn children already part of the population. But that being said, it’s totally hypocritical to leave it there. I would say if you are pro life but don’t have hopes or plans of adoption or supporting someone else’s adoption, then I’d call you a hypocrite. If you aren’t willing to take care of the mothers going through with an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy in any way you can, then it’s also hypocritical. If we look back at Paul again and Jesus’s own teachings, they both agree we should be taking care of the orphans, the fatherless, and the widows. I feel like Peterson and the like’s argument of increasing the population no matter the cost is also hypocritical and unloving.
Thanks man, appreciate it. I myself, am pro choice. I certainly don't agree with the blanket ban on abortion that's being pushed across America. Causing a lot of issues with pregnancies that aren't viable, and a threat to the mothers life. Like everything in life, it's complex situation. But no one should be forcing women, children to be giving birth against their will. We have a lot of issues within our society, without adding more unwanted children, pushing people further into poverty due to the lack of supports once the child is born. Like you said, if they aren't willing to take care through an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy, it's hypocritical. That's what they're doing removing womans choice, but also abandoning them as well.
I've always had issues with the stuff Peterson says, and it's no surprise he's a big fan of Musk. lol.
Totally agree, it’s a very complex issue and yet it feels like the political atmosphere tries to make it black and white. Unfortunately, reality is rarely black and white, it’s typically very grey (or gray depending on your spelling lol). From my view, I think the tragedy of society is we’ve gotten to the point that abortion is not just an option but often the only option. The fact that we’ve gotten there means the care and support women and children should be getting was long forgotten if it ever existed.
I always say, nothing is black and white. Except piano keys. And zebras. And newspapers. penguins. Other black and white stuff. so even the saying, nothing is black and white, isn’t black and white.
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Amazing JD!!
Thanks BK. 😊 hope you're doing better.
Well well well. Welcome to the arena JD.
Look Peterson is a hopeless drug addict. He almost died at one point in the last couple of years (hence why he disappeared from the scene for a bit). That's not a secret, it's public knowledge.
I take everything he says through the lens of he was pretty doped up for large chunks of time.
He was part of that cadre of talk-show celebs (Brand included) that found themselves on the outs when the Me Too movement empowered women to speak out about abuse.
It was a hard time for a bunch dickheads cause the balance of power had shifted.
But bullies never back down when challenged. Movies and TV are fantasy, you can't just stand up to a bully publicly and have them retreat. The ugly truth is bullies double down on what got them the power in the first place.
The backlash (for want of a better term) to women having more of a voice has been ugly. Like 1920's ugly. I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime (outside of medieval places like Saudi Arabia and the like) the regressive shift in views on women in western democracies like I've seen in the past few years. It's scary, but not that surprising given the characters at the heart of it. They were always problematic if we're being honest with ourselves. And that's the issue methinks: self reflection. Lotta people feel pretty bad about the stuff they saw and did nothing about over the years.
They want someone to let them think that it's all okay, that the people, they deep down know they failed, were actually their enemy, that they, in some twisted way, deserved what they got. Or at very least it wasn't as bad as everyone makes out (most of that 'everyone' being the voice in their head telling them otherwise).
Interesting, I didn't know about his addiction issues. That's the thing with the Me Too movement. It brought out those that, like you said, double down on their crap. But standing up to bullies is something I've done for decades. The MRA, who don't actually give a crap about mens health for the most part, are who started the "Not all men." rubbish. The whataboutism tactics. etc. The backlash has been ugly, and it continues to get worse. It will get worse before it gets better. The positive I've noticed, is more men, from the younger generations moreso, (myself being gen X) are stepping up and calling other men out. Need more of it.
I like Australian accents. But I had to remind myself 2 or 3 times when I started that you’re my friend, not a stranger.
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Really liked this format!! Excited for more rants.🔥
Love it man! Your rants tend to get me fired up too lol! I even tend to like a lot of Petersons stuff, but I totally agree with you here.
I want to know what his thoughts on Paul the apostle are then. After reading any of his writings, I don’t think anyone (religious or not) would call that childless, unmarried man, immature.
Furthermore, my argument against the whole population issue is what’s more important, some future nonexistent population, or the current population we already have?
And I know this is a hot take, but I’m a big advocate for pro life and don’t agree with abortion. I consider those unborn children already part of the population. But that being said, it’s totally hypocritical to leave it there. I would say if you are pro life but don’t have hopes or plans of adoption or supporting someone else’s adoption, then I’d call you a hypocrite. If you aren’t willing to take care of the mothers going through with an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy in any way you can, then it’s also hypocritical. If we look back at Paul again and Jesus’s own teachings, they both agree we should be taking care of the orphans, the fatherless, and the widows. I feel like Peterson and the like’s argument of increasing the population no matter the cost is also hypocritical and unloving.
Thanks man, appreciate it. I myself, am pro choice. I certainly don't agree with the blanket ban on abortion that's being pushed across America. Causing a lot of issues with pregnancies that aren't viable, and a threat to the mothers life. Like everything in life, it's complex situation. But no one should be forcing women, children to be giving birth against their will. We have a lot of issues within our society, without adding more unwanted children, pushing people further into poverty due to the lack of supports once the child is born. Like you said, if they aren't willing to take care through an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy, it's hypocritical. That's what they're doing removing womans choice, but also abandoning them as well.
I've always had issues with the stuff Peterson says, and it's no surprise he's a big fan of Musk. lol.
Totally agree, it’s a very complex issue and yet it feels like the political atmosphere tries to make it black and white. Unfortunately, reality is rarely black and white, it’s typically very grey (or gray depending on your spelling lol). From my view, I think the tragedy of society is we’ve gotten to the point that abortion is not just an option but often the only option. The fact that we’ve gotten there means the care and support women and children should be getting was long forgotten if it ever existed.
I always say, nothing is black and white. Except piano keys. And zebras. And newspapers. penguins. Other black and white stuff. so even the saying, nothing is black and white, isn’t black and white.